Cempaka Culture and Tourism: Indonesia, Netherlands tailoring taut bilateral relations

"The Recalibration of Awareness – Apr 20/21, 2012 (Kryon channeled by Lee Carroll) (Subjects: Old Energy, Recalibration Lectures, God / Creator, Religions/Spiritual systems (Catholic Church, Priests/Nun’s, Worship, John Paul Pope, Women in the Church otherwise church will go, Current Pope won’t do it), Middle East, Jews, Governments will change (Internet, Media, Democracies, Dictators, North Korea, Nations voted at once), Integrity (Businesses, Tobacco Companies, Bankers/ Financial Institutes, Pharmaceutical company to collapse), Illuminati (Started in Greece, with Shipping, Financial markets, Stock markets, Pharmaceutical money (fund to build Africa, to develop)), Shift of Human Consciousness, (Old) Souls, Women, Masters to/already come back, Global Unity.... etc.) - (Text version)

“… The Shift in Human Nature

You're starting to see integrity change. Awareness recalibrates integrity, and the Human Being who would sit there and take advantage of another Human Being in an old energy would never do it in a new energy. The reason? It will become intuitive, so this is a shift in Human Nature as well, for in the past you have assumed that people take advantage of people first and integrity comes later. That's just ordinary Human nature.

In the past, Human nature expressed within governments worked like this: If you were stronger than the other one, you simply conquered them. If you were strong, it was an invitation to conquer. If you were weak, it was an invitation to be conquered. No one even thought about it. It was the way of things. The bigger you could have your armies, the better they would do when you sent them out to conquer. That's not how you think today. Did you notice?

Any country that thinks this way today will not survive, for humanity has discovered that the world goes far better by putting things together instead of tearing them apart. The new energy puts the weak and strong together in ways that make sense and that have integrity. Take a look at what happened to some of the businesses in this great land (USA). Up to 30 years ago, when you started realizing some of them didn't have integrity, you eliminated them. What happened to the tobacco companies when you realized they were knowingly addicting your children? Today, they still sell their products to less-aware countries, but that will also change.

What did you do a few years ago when you realized that your bankers were actually selling you homes that they knew you couldn't pay for later? They were walking away, smiling greedily, not thinking about the heartbreak that was to follow when a life's dream would be lost. Dear American, you are in a recession. However, this is like when you prune a tree and cut back the branches. When the tree grows back, you've got control and the branches will grow bigger and stronger than they were before, without the greed factor. Then, if you don't like the way it grows back, you'll prune it again! I tell you this because awareness is now in control of big money. It's right before your eyes, what you're doing. But fear often rules. …”

Sunday, May 27, 2007

Indonesia, Netherlands tailoring taut bilateral relations

The Jakarta Post, World News - March 05, 2007

After decades of relatively strained bilateral ties, Indonesia and its former colonial master the Netherlands are currently engaged in a hallmark relationship marked by a profound intention between the two nations to cast away the wounds of the past.

It is understandable that with Asia set to become a major political and economic hub, the Dutch government has recently been stepping up efforts to mend its centuries-old relationship with Indonesia.

To further explore the nature of relations between the two countries, The Jakarta Post's Rendi Akhmad Witular interviewed newly appointed Indonesian Ambassador to the Netherlands, Junus Effendi Habibie -- a retired Dutch-educated public servant and a former legislator from the Democratic Party.

Question: How would you describe the current bilateral relations between Indonesia and the Netherlands?

Answer: Since our independence in 1945 there have always been stumbling blocks in the relations between the two countries, such as issues related to the Dutch refusal to recognize our independence day on Aug. 17, 1945 (the Dutch government initially claimed Indonesia had not gained independence until Dec. 27, 1949).

But since 2005, when the Dutch government officially acknowledged Indonesia's self-proclaimed freedom in 1945, all the pebbles in our shoes that were straining relations have gradually been thrown away.

There is now a great effort between the two countries to enhance the relationship. This is evident by the recent signing of a letter of intent (LoI) on a comprehensive partnership mechanism (for dialog and cooperation) by the foreign ministers of the two nations. This LoI is a follow up to the Dutch intention to enhance cooperation in various sectors in the future.

But the LoI will become fully effective when President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono visits the Netherlands in the coming months and signs the agreement with Queen Beatrix.

With this partnership, we will cooperate under a framework of equality and mutual benefit. I have always said, including to President Yudhoyono, that we should see the Netherlands as a gate to the European Union. I also often ask Dutch businessmen to come to Indonesia because it is a big country with a big market, and is also a gateway to Southeast Asia.

Why were efforts to improve relations not initiated a long time ago?

Well, better late than never. As a country which once invaded and ruled Indonesia, there are still a lot of conservative people (in the Netherlands) who dream of the glory of the colonial era.

However, these kind of people are gradually disappearing now, thanks to the efforts of (Dutch foreign minister) Bernard Bot.

When the Dutch government still only acknowledged the 1949 independence, it also meant that they indirectly refused to recognize the integration of Papua into Indonesia. That is why there is some figures in the OPM (Free Papua Movement) rebel group living (in the Netherlands).

When Sukarno proclaimed independence, the area known as Indonesia included areas from Sabang (in Aceh) to Merauke (in Papua). By recognizing the 1945 independence, the Dutch government has automatically and clearly rejected any kind of separatism.

Now that there are no longer any obstacles in our way, coupled with legal paths to cooperate, I say we should work the iron while it is still hot.

Let us hold hands and look to the future. We should learn from the past. We take the good and throw away the bad. If we are always looking back we will never progress. The Netherlands has shown its serious (attitude toward) enhancing relations. And now it is our turn to take advantage in order to gain mutual benefits.

How serious is the threat issues related to the OPM and RMS (Republic of South Maluku) rebel groups could potentially strain relations between Indonesia and the Netherlands? (Some key members of the groups live in the Netherlands and support the movements from a distance.)

They are our people. If they stage a demonstration here that is fine. But in any part of the world, separatism cannot be accepted. I accept these people as my brothers and sisters. In a family there is always a disagreement, but still we are family. I have told them that my house is also theirs. They can come to my house at any time, but as family.

I have also told them to be good citizens here in the Netherlands. These old people are victims of the past. They were brought here (by the Dutch government). I will be more than happy to bring them home to Indonesia, but under the condition that the do not engage in separatist movements.

As for the younger generation, I advise them to also become good citizens, and to never forget that they should help their families back in Maluku and Papua.

The Dutch government said in 2005 that they would not support any kind of separatist movement in Indonesia.

What kind of issues were raised during your meeting with Queen Beatrix when you presented your credentials?

The Queen is really interested in Indonesia. She asked how the situation in Aceh was. I explained to her that Aceh is peaceful now after the signing of the peace accord between the Aceh rebel group and the government. Now there is a directly-elected governor in the province. The Queen also expects relations between the two nations to become closer.

She also raised questions about Papua. I've explained to her that the situation in the province is extremely better than it was before. However, any giant leap in the development of the province is still not possible because of the low quality of human resources there. You can imagine that there are still tribal wars between villages.

The Papuans want local figure to be their regent or governor. But what happens is that one of the regents in that province has spent 1.5 months of his time in Surabaya (the East Java capital) to have some fun. The Queen seemed to be shocked to hear that.

For sure, the Queen is very concerned with the prosperity of the Papuans. There seems to be a moral obligation for her, and that is obvious. Culturally, we are closer to the Dutch than to the British.

One of your main tasks is to lure more Dutch investors to Indonesia. How are you going to do that?

I have always told Dutch businessmen that corruption in Indonesia can not be entirely stamped out in a day. What we are doing now is building a good system to prevent it. It's not something instant.

Issues related to legal uncertainty, security and labor problems are still being worked out by the government. We are not in paradise yet, but we are heading to it in the right way. These kinds of problems have existed since long ago, and it will take time to fix them.

Source: The Jakarta Post, World News - March 05, 2007